Introduction

The Skies We’re Under is a podcast by and for parents of people with complex disabilities. It’s about the weather not always what we predicted or want. Author of The Skies I’m Under and nurse Rachel Wright has authentic, funny and sometimes sweary conversations with fellow parents about a different kind of parenthood. It’s for all of us trying to get from one end of the week to the other, whilst bridging the gap between the life we expected and the one we are living.

Season 2 – WE NEED YOUR HELP!

With an anticipated launch of early 2023 we are busy working behind the scenes on Season 2, however, we need funds to help towards the production costs.

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The Skies We’re Under Podcasts

Season 1 – Holidays (Same S**t, Different location)| Bonus episode 2

Less support + Less equipment + Less routine + Higher expectations = Holidays

Or as we like to call it, having a different kitchen sink.

As ever Rachel, Sarah and Lucy give the slightly sweary warts and all version of life and stresses and loves of parenting a disabled child.

 

Lucy swears more than normal, spoiler alert (none of us have managed a relaxing summer break yet) and we’re all a bit p****d about all the Instagram spam of leisurely summer family trips away.*

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*As ever there is much to be grateful for and we love our children – blah blah blah…

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Season 1 – Summer Catch-up | Bonus episode 1

So much has happened since the end of The Skies We’re Under podcast, season 1, that Rachel, Sarah and Lucy thought you might enjoy a quick catch-up. Brace yourselves though as not much has gone to plan. (Nothing new there, then!)

As ever, just talking and being real with each other, helps the big deep breath and sense of not being alone. Here’s a sneak peek into the world of parenting people with complex disabilities.

Put the kettle on (or even better pour a glass of wine) and listen to the full episode here or wherever you find your podcasts.

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Season 1 – Some of the best bits

Here we have some of our favourite extracts from Season 1 of The Skies We’re Under podcast. We had to do a ‘best of’ episode because we couldn’t end on episode 19 -that would be all kinds of wrong. 

If you’re wondering whether to listen to any of the episodes, here is a sneak peek at some of our truth telling, laughing and the things we’re learning as we trundle along. 

  • Confessions of an optimistic parent 
  • Little white lies 
  • HELP! 
  • Self-care – what it is not 
  • Sex-ed 
  • Pessary gate 
  • Finishing with another entry for out poetry competition 

Thank you for coming back week on week. Please share the podcast with your friends, colleagues, or family as there are lots of great episodes for them to listen to.   

You can email us at TSWUpodcast@gmail.com or follow @bornatrighttime on Instagram and Facebook. As ever, it would be super helpful if you could rate, review and follow the podcast. That way you will know exactly when we are back – we will see you with season 2. 

That’s a wrap  | S1 | E19 

It’s our last recorded episode of TSWU podcast. As ever we laugh and cry. We tell you the good, bad and ugly truth of the last few months for us and get excited about the upcoming live tour*. 

Thank you for coming back week on week. You don’t need to stop sharing the podcast with your friends, colleagues, or family as there are lots of great episodes for them to listen to.  

You can still email us at TSWUpodcast@gmail.com, follow @bornatrighttime on Instagram and Facebook. As ever, it would be super helpful if you could rate, review and follow the podcast so you know exactly when we are back. 

*currently there is no live tour but if you want to host us – get in touch. 

Learning to Trust  | S1 | E18 

This episode of The Skies We’re Under podcast Lucy, Rachel and Sarah follow on from last week’s topic of trust. They talk about we discover is: 

  • Trust is hard 
  • Trusting takes work on both sides 
  • Trusting someone means being vulnerable 
  • The system which cares for our children is often not trusting nor trustworthy, despite the best efforts of those working within it. 
  • Trust is necessary as the parent of a person with disabilities as trust is necessary when we need others to do something we cannot do alone. 
  • “Don’t put that in your mouth!” poetry competition chosen entry for this week. 

We refer to 

 The thin book of Trust by Charles Feltman 

Atlas of the heart by Brene Brown 

Thank you for coming back week on week. Please share the podcast with your friends, colleagues, or family as there are lots of great episodes for them to listen to.   

You can email us at TSWUpodcast@gmail.com or follow @bornatrighttime on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. As ever, it would be super helpful if you could rate, review and follow the podcast.  

Losing Trust  | S1 | E17 

Sarah and Rachel (sorry no Lucy today) are on The Skies We’re Under podcast today talking about how their stories have changed the way they trust themselves. They also prod the possible implosion of trusting the idea that everything will turn out just fine. It seems trust is earned and carved from time, actions and energy. It can’t be conjured from a job title, role or sense of responsibility. So how do we nurture trusting ourselves.

Also, we cry laughing and pause recording as we pull ourselves together. Thank you so much for listening to The Skies We’re under podcast from whichever of the 34 different countries you are living in.   

To submit your own stories, comments, questions or a poem to the “Don’t put that in your mouth” competition, * you can email the podcast at TSWUpodcast@gmail.com or message us @bornatrighttime on Instagram and Facebook.  

It would be wonderful if you could rate, review and follow the podcast from wherever it is you listen along.  

*prize pending 

Attendance awards, pity prizes and choosing what we value  | S1 | E16 

This week Rachel, Sarah and Lucy wonder why we label and introduce our children completely differently to anyone else we know. Sarah boasts of her cycling proficiency award while Rachel has ‘musicality’. Who do you think is the most to least competitive amongst us? Listen to find out. 

In the podcast we mention the wonderful Rochelle and her blog My Daily Miracle. Tag some other blogs you find helpful as a parent. 

And tell us all about: 

  • The awards you won at and since school. 
  • The ways your children been celebrated well? 
  • What categories of awards would you like to see in school? 

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Link to the court case discussed https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Fam/2021/2844.html
Blog discussing the outcome  

http://www.lukeclements.co.uk/a-high-octane-conflict/ 

Institutionalising parent carer blame 

http://www.lukeclements.co.uk/institutionalising-parent-carer-blame/ 

Working together policy 

http://www.lukeclements.co.uk/coroners-criticises-working-together-2018/  

Shifting family dynamics 

https://oadd.org/journal/volume-27-number-2-changing-social-welfare-provisions-and-shifting-family-dynamics/ 

Whose life is it anyway?  | S1 | E15 

When things go really wrong.  

Today, Rachel, Lucy and Sarah discuss a case where the local authority took parents to court for interfering ‘in a combative way’ in relation to the care package for their child. 

Tough content as we try to hold onto the fact that every person involved with our families -commissioners, young people, parents, practitioners- is human.  

Oh, and an update on Mousegate.  

Trigger warning: animals were harmed during the recording of this episode. 

Do email us at TSWUpodcast@gmail.com or connect @bornatrighttime in Instagram and Facebook. We would really appreciate it if you could rate, review and follow the podcast to help us keep recording. 

Link to the court case discussed https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Fam/2021/2844.html
Blog discussing the outcome  

http://www.lukeclements.co.uk/a-high-octane-conflict/ 

Institutionalising parent carer blame 

http://www.lukeclements.co.uk/institutionalising-parent-carer-blame/ 

Working together policy 

http://www.lukeclements.co.uk/coroners-criticises-working-together-2018/  

Shifting family dynamics 

https://oadd.org/journal/volume-27-number-2-changing-social-welfare-provisions-and-shifting-family-dynamics/ 

Diving deeper into the goldfish bowl | S1 | E14 

Join Rachel, Sarah and Lucy as they continue to unpick notions of battle language and tribalism among parents and professionals.

The labels of ‘unreasonable’ and ‘difficult’ parents, and the lack of humanity when we view professionals purely as part of the system that can be so very challenging.

Oh, and on an entirely unrelated note, Lucy shares her Mousegate story. Actual mouse. In actual house.

Grab a cuppa and come join us.

Living in a Goldfish Bowl | S1 | E13 

Lucy, Rachel and Sarah talk this week on the podcast about living in a goldfish bowl. As we swim around our lives being watched, assessed and scrutinised by many practitioners and services set up to support us.  

 But what difference does this constant observation have on our lives, our relationships and levels of stress? 

We are nearing the end of season 1 of the podcast. If you have a moment, we would really appreciate you taking the time to review, rate and follow the podcast. Then tell anyone who might listen all about it. 

For questions, disability hacks or to share your story, you can email TSWUpodcast@gmail.com – we would love to hear from you. If you have any ideas or resources might support us being able to continue the podcast we would also love to hear from you. 

Resilience | S1 | E12 

Lucy, Rachel and Sarah talk this week on the podcast about resilience.  

Do we have it?  

Do we want it?  

Is there a difference between healthy and unhealthy resilience?  

There are also confessions of the umbrella-stand-kind and a couple of handy, practical disability hacks. 

You can find more information about PATH (Planning alternative tomorrows for hope) here and see the photos we talk about on our Instagram @BornatRightTime.  

If you have a moment, we would really appreciate you taking the time to review, rate and follow the podcast. Then tell anyone who might listen all about it! For questions, disability hacks or to share your story, you can email TSWUpodcast@gmail.com – we would love to hear from you. 

Help | S1 | E11 

Sarah, Rachel and Lucy laugh, talk and rant a bit about parenting children with disabilities, in particular asking for and getting help. We confess to thinking none of us need it but actually acknowledging we all do. There is a confession of the pessary kind and if you do not laugh during this episode – you might need to be checked out by a doctor. 

 We cover: 

  • Helpful help 
  • Unhelpful help 
  • The relationship between helping and being helped 
  • And how asking for help isn’t weakness but true connection and the best part of human-ing 

Research referenced from Disabled children’s partnership 

Simple Stuff Works  

Born at the Right Time 

Sami alert (as talked about by Lucy) 

SUDEP action 

Children epilepsy charity 

Different epilepsy monitoring options highlighted in epilepsy UK 

Epilepsy | S1 | E10 

Sarah, Rachel and Lucy open up and talk all things epilepsy in today’s podcast. There are no fluffy unicorns or rose-tinted glasses here. We’re real, raw and talking about epilepsy from a parent perspective.  

Witnessing it, treating it and living on the brink of when it might strike again. So essentially this episode should just be one big trigger warning. But if you might find it helpful to know you are not treading the epilepsy tightrope alone – listen in as we swear and rant about: 

  • Different types of seizure 
  • Diagnosis 
  • Monitoring epilepsy 
  • SUDEP (Sudden unexpected death in epilepsy) 
  • Medications and other treatments 
  • Making YouTube films of different seizure types 

Trigger warning we talk all about Epilepsy and it is traumatic to witness. This conversation includes Sudden Unexpected Death in Epilepsy (SUDEP). 

Useful and reputable information 

All about epilepsy from NHS 

Sami alert (as talked about by Lucy) 

SUDEP action 

Children epilepsy charity 

Different epilepsy monitoring options highlighted in epilepsy UK 

Food and alternative feeding | S1 | E9 

This week on the podcast we are talking about one of our favourite things – food. For each of our stories though, the way we fed our complex children was quite different. We faced challenges, learned new skills and each time – found an alternative way to keeping our children well fed. Unsurprisingly we continue the irreverent humour and chit chat about:

  • Breast feeding
  • Enteral feeding (via tubes into nose, mouth or stomach)
  • Chemotherapy
  • The trauma of the health visitor weigh-in clinics
  • Being told your child needs to be nil-by-mouth
  • Sensory issues

The statistics we discuss are for the UK and we need to give a trigger warning that in telling our stories we discuss traumatic birth and childhood cancer.

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Self-Care | S1 | E8 

Self-care or not to self-care. That is the question. 

This week on the podcast we are talking all things self-care. But obviously it’s more convoluted than that and covers Sarah’s impression of Edward scissor hands, inappropriate massage techniques, pruning rather than planting and our lives being the solar system around our children with disabilities.  

 Sometimes when everything is happening, the Instagram version of self-care is a pipe dream and sometimes self-care is plain uncomfortable and hard. Importantly though we realise that to really look after our own well-being and care for self, first we need to know who our self is and what she/he needs. 

4th April 2022 is HIE awareness day through Peeps. 

Racketys disabled clothing 

M&S easy dressing range 

Uribag portable urinal  

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Guilt | S1 | E6 

This week Rachel, Sarah and Lucy discuss the big ol’ topic of guilt in all its formats. Mum guilt. Carer guilt. All the guilt. Who knew parents of disabled children felt guilty? Shocker. In fact, we started talking and realised we have waaaay too much to say on the topic, so this is the first of a two parter. You’re welcome.

We try and untangle guilt versus shame, and think about how our personalities and lived experiences might shape our perception and experiences of guilt. Spoiler alert: Rach feels guilty for sending her son to school in costume on the wrong day. Lucy thinks it’s hilarious.

As ever- smiles, banter, and real authentic life stuff.

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Relationships | S1 | E5

In this week’s podcast Rachel, Sarah and Lucy are supposed to be talking about relationships but somehow it includes: 

  • Confession of an optimistic parent 
  • EHCPs wormholes 
  • Sex Ed
  • ‘Would you believe?’ the scrutiny of parents giving their child blended diets 
  • How our relationship with ourselves, partners and others have changed 

 In response to a question from a listener we talk about Em and friends cards 

https://emandfriends.com/ 

 Because we are three parents doing this in our own time whilst juggling our work, families and children with complex needs, we are going to have to skip a week.  

The podcast will be back in 2 weeks when we will be talking about grief.  

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It doesn’t make sense… | S1 | E4

In this week’s podcast Rachel, Sarah and Lucy talk about trying to make sense of life using fridge magnets and faith. Listen to hear: 

  • They saying they hate (and love)
  • Whether there is a God and if she is any help at all
  • We start talking about what we find helpful in staying emotionally well
  • Practical ways you can help friends who are going through a tough time 

 In the podcast we share information about meal planner apps like https://takethemameal.com/  

Positive family connections positivefamilies@warwick.ac.uk 

Simple Stuff Works www.simplestuffworks.com

The sound still isn’t great, but we are working on technical issues.

Next week the theme is all about relationships.

 The sound still isn’t great, but we are working on technical issues.  

Next week we are talking about relationships. 

A new normal way of living | S1 |E3

This week, Lucy Parr, Sarah Clayton and Rachel talk about some of the helpful and unhelpful ways we deal with times of stress and transition. None of us are trained to provide professional advice but we do talk honestly about the truth of our complex realities and how we try to live life well.

Trigger warning: Very early on in this episode we talk about the fear and potential for childhood death, DNACPR, childhood cancer and stroke.

We also do laugh a lot because this world we live in manages to have both – despite the absurdity of it all. Please do not listen to this episode if this will not serve you well. We also discuss the importance to have conversations about our children’s end of life care. Details of resources are below.

The following resources are discussed during the podcast:

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But we’re going to Toys-R-Us | S1 | E2

In this episode Rachel, Lucy and Sarah talk about how their children were diagnosed. The things that set them apart and bring them together. There are more discoveries about Sarah’s parenting fails and how Lucy’s incense obsession might have impacted professionals believing her. 

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Trigger warning the topics of Childhood cancer, traumatic births, epilepsy and duplication Q syndrome is discussed. 

That’s not my name | S1 | E1

In this episode Rachel Wright, Lucy Parr and Sarah Clayton introduce themselves and their families. They all have different experiences of becoming parents of children with complex needs and how that impacted their identity as women and parents. The conversations they have sometimes even makes them exclaim, “That’s not my name.”

Lucy swears within the first 2 minutes so apologies for that – God created headphones for a reason (so children couldn’t listen to our podcasts). The sound is not as good as we hoped, but we are working on it so keep listening and we will get better. 

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Trigger warning the topics of childhood cancer, chromosome duplication and severe disability is discussed. 

The Skies We’re Under Host

Rachel Wright

Rachel a qualified nurse and unqualified mum of 3, parenting a son with complex disabilities and life-limiting epilepsy. Author (The Skies I’m Under), award winning blogger, speaker, trainer and founder of Born at the Right Time. She’s passionate about effective communication, co-production, community and embracing life’s challenges.  

An expert through lived experience, Rachel works towards #BridgingTheGap between families of children with complex conditions and the practitioners who support them. Occasionally she ties on her trainers and runs in a vague attempt to counteract her love for Salt ‘n Vinegar crisps, hummus and all things carbohydrate. Her middle son is currently writing a book titled, “My mum’s epic fails” (it is likely to have more than one volume). 

The Skies We’re Under regular guests 

Sarah Clayton (BSc, PGCE)

Passionate about all things postural care. Sounds dull but it turns out that her passion translates into highly contagious enthusiasm. She’s a biologist and qualified teacher with over 20 years’ experience of working alongside families of children with complex needs. Her life’s mission is to reduce avoidable complications such as hip dislocations and scoliosis. She has developed a range of accredited training courses accessible to health, social care and education practitioners.  

When her daughter was diagnosed with a malignant brain tumour aged 6, she suddenly became part of ‘one of those families’. Sarah has three other children, works full time and can regularly be found wearing her jumper inside out. 

Lucy Parr (BSc, MSc)

Currently studying for a Doctorate in educational and community psychology. One of her four children has a rare chromosomal disorder resulting in multiple complex needs. After years as a stay-at-home parent, she returned to university to gain a First-Class honours which resulted a nomination as National Student of the Year 2018. She completed an MA in Oxford and is now studying as an Educational Psychologist.  

She’s a non-preachy vegan, saltwater soul who loves the sea, a cleaner upper of many shituations and has now got to the stage of life where she needs to moisturise her elbows. 

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